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FULL FUNCTION - WASTEGATE SIZING FOR CUSTOM TURBO SETUPS

Across the broad array of message boards we see a large amount of misinformation. Sadly this bad info can lead somebody into purchasing the wrong part. One common bit of internet hearsay is "The bigger the turbo the bigger the wastegate!" So is this fact or myth? This write-up may influence your next wastegate purchase.

Generally speaking running lower boost levels, requires a larger wastegate. The theory is more exhaust gas needs to diverted (wasted) away from the turbine wheel during low boost conditions. While running high boost levels, a majority of the exhaust needs to be directed into the turbine wheel to spool the turbocharger.

Example A: A GT42R turbocharger on a 1.6L engine would require a smaller wastegate because a majority of the exhaust flow from the engine would be required to spool the turbine wheel.

Example B: A GT25R on a 3.0L engine attempting to run low boost pressure would require a large wastegate because a majority of the exhaust flow needs to be diverted away from the turbine wheel to keep the turbo from boost creep or over boosting.

The real life applications show here are performed on a dyno with race gas. Use of 91 octane gasoline may result in more boost creep, due to the necessity of running less ignition timing advance. Less ignition timing advance raises EGT temperatures causing the turbo to spool more agressively.

Full Function is not responsible for any damage or injury that may occur by the replication of these tests. The tests do not express the opinions of Full Function. The tests supply real data and help explain the turbo/engine/wastegate relationship.

The following data logs shown is a real life application of example B.
Setup:

  • 2.4L 4G64 long rod block

  • Ported 1G 4G63 head 1mm O.S. valves

  • HKS 272 In and Ex cams

  • GT35R w/.63AR turbine housing

  • Turbonetics manifold

  • Tial 38mm Wastegate

14PSI

Notice the numbers on your right showing the RPM and boost pressure. The green line (engine load) represents PSI. Notice how PSI increases as rpm does. This car's wastegate is too small for low boost applications. In order to maintain a 14PSI level the wastegate would have to be larger. Its engine displacement is too large for the 38mm wastegate. Or you could say the turbo is too small for the wastegate at this PSI level.

14 PSI High RPM

Here is the same graph showing the values at a higher RPM. Notice how the PSI rises the higher in RPM the engine goes. This is due to the higher amount of exhaust flow at higher RPM. However the plans for the car are much higher boost levels. Lets turn up the boost and see if the boost level ever evens out.

30PSI

Here we see the car turned up past 30PSI. If you notice the PSI doesn't creep anymore as RPM rises. Boost bumps up a little past 32PSI and levels out to 30PSI We see that at higher boost levels the Tial 38mm wastegate can control boost with this setup.

Real life application of Example A.
Setup:

* 2.0L 4G63 block
* ported 1G 4G63 head 1mm O.S. valves
* HKS 272 In and Ex cams
* GT35R w/.63AR turbine housing
* Turbonetics manifold
* Tial 38mm Wastegate

Notice how the PSI reaches 14.5 and stayes level throughout the RPM band. This engine uses a majority of it's exhaust flow to spool the GT35R and does not require a larger wastegate.

For Tial Wastegate Spring Charts, Click Here.
For advice on what wastegate to purchase for your application please Email us at Sales@fftec.com

 
   

 

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